Showing posts with label Cyclingnews. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cyclingnews. Show all posts

Sunday, August 4, 2013

LUNATICS running the ASYLUM ?

Race Cyclists have been told that Anti Doping in the Upcoming US Events will not include " HGH & EPO " , nor will USADA be allowed to participate ! We ALL Know that these are the PEDs of choice in Cycling but UCI has decided to overlook these tests ?

Currently phat the rat is president of the UCI and wishes to continue into a third term . Having lost the original Nomination by the Irish Federation , he then sought that of the Swiss Federation , which is now subject to legal challenge . Behind the scenes he has been active , and in cooperation with a number of MINOR National Federations , has caused to be put forward controversial changes to the UCI Constitution, which they propose to make RETROSPECTIVE ! So controversial are these changes that the Russian Federation has warned of Legal action and the various Media Pundits have had a field day .

Here is a timeline of events this year copied from Cycling News :

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/index-of-the-2013-uci-presidential-election

Cyclingnews will bring you up to the minute coverage of the campaign until election day on September 27 in Florence, Italy.
April 13, 2013 - McQuaid celebrates cycling Ireland endorsement
April 13, 2013 - McQuaid endorsed by cycling Ireland for UCI presidency
April 15, 2013 - Kimmage angered by cycling Irelands support for McQuaid
April 16, 2013 - Moran resigns after voting against McQuaid
April 26, 2013 - Is Pat McQuaids future in doubt
April 26, 2013 - Cycling Ireland to re-consider its nomination of McQuaid for UCI president
May 16, 2013 - McQuaid backed by Swiss cycling federation for UCI presidency
May 23, 2013 - Pat McQuaid: Cycling has an extremely bright future
May 23, 2013 - Reactions to Pat McQuaids stakeholders comment
June 3, 2013 - Report: Cookson to run for UCI presidency
June 4, 2013 - Cookson confirms candidacy for UCI presidency
June 4, 2013 - Q and A: UCI presidential candidate Brian Cookson
June 5, 2013 - Cooksons bid for UCI presidency has professional support
June 5, 2013 - McQuaid fires a warning shot at UCI presidential rival Cookson
June 6, 2013 - Confederacy of Dunces? A look into the UCI presidential election
June 7, 2013 - Pinotti welcomes Brian Cooksons UCI presidency bid
June 7, 2013 - Makarov responds to McQuaids insinuations
June 12, 2013 - Swiss cycling federation backing of McQuaid called into question
June 13, 2013 - Could Pat McQuaid face a vote of no confidence at UCI management committee
June 15, 2013 - Irish cycling clubs vote against backing McQuaid for UCI presidency
June 16, 2013 - Mike Plant publicly ends his support of pat McQuaid
June 18, 2013 - Cookson reacts to dossier on McQuaid
June 22, 2013 - Cookson says he won't rely on courts to silence dissent
June 25, 2013 - McQuaid attacks half baked Cookson manifesto
June 25, 2013 - Opinion: Cookson the zero communication strategy
July 4, 2013 - Q and A: Brian Cookson discusses the UCI presidential campaign
July 8, 2013 - McQuaid releases UCI presidency campaign manifesto
July 17, 2013 - Petition plans for womens Tour de France unrealistic says Cookson
July 30, 2013 - Malaysia supports McQuaids bid for re-election
July 30, 2013 - McQuaid calls his nominations by Thailand, Morocco valid
July 30, 2013 - Proposed UCI election changes smack of attempted dictatorship says Cookson
July 31, 2013 - USA Cycling president concerned with UCI presidential process
July 31, 2013 - McQuaid touts anti-doping initiatives in re-election bid
July 31, 2013 - Malaysian motion may allow new candidates to enter presidential race
July 31, 2013 - AIGCP questions amendment to UCI election protocol
August 1, 2013 - Vaughters McQuaids record does not support campaign claims
August 2, 2013 - McQuaid to face additional legal challenge

It is apparent that phat the rat feels that he should no longer be thought of as Jim Burn ( that 1970s englishman found in contravention of IOC rules in Sth Africa ), but is now emulating the " Dear Leader of Nth Korea " & Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe 's style of leadeship of the UCI and thus Cycle Racing .

42 " Voting Delegates " are responsible for choosing the Future President of the UCI , in an Election that will take place on the 23rd September 2013 during the Firenze Congress . Already we are hearing that there are Items being ADDED to the " Agenda " , normally required to be considered by the "UCI Management Board " before being added . Seems that the UCI Constitution is being challenged , continually , by those under the influence of the current incumbent ? Must be difficult to work for an Organisation , where you are under continual threat of loss of employment , if you do not give way regarding what appears to be a triffling detail ?

Has anyone noticed that there have been , " NO Positives " from the 2013 " Le Tour "? Seems that ALL the Racers , that is the WHOLE PELOTON , decided to mark the 100th Edition of " Le Tour " , by giving up ALL the health products that their TEAM Doctors & Organisation provide them with during their Career ? Of course they will also have modified their OWN Dietry intake to achieve this SPECTACULAR Result ?

Fact is , UCI are in the position of choosing WHAT to test for , and WHEN to release those results ! In past years we have heard of a bunch of " Positives " being discovered on the unattended desk of a UCI Employee ! It was reported that the employees desk was thought to have been cleared when they departed ? REALLY ? Smacks of some thinking that those outside UCI Circles , are thought to be GULLIBLE ?

As mentioned earlier US Races about to take place are going to be denied oversight by USADA . As far as i am aware , USADA , are required to test and then SANCTION any Racer that contravenes WADA Codes ? What is different in the USA , as far as UCI is concerned ? Lance is not racing , LL is not racing , GH is not racing , so if reports from previous years are correct , they should not have to worry about their " Protoges " , failing the " Anti Doping Controls "? Could it be that certain UCI personnel , still have bent noses from their run in with USADA , over the " Considered Decision " from 2012 ?

Copies of Travis Tygart comments , that are pertinent :

  "  “The whole conversation and dialogue around the races, just like we saw at the Tour de France this year, is suspicion about riders which is unfair to those riders. It detracts from the beauty of the sport. It is all happening because of the lack of leadership that back in November said they were going to take decisive and transparent action to put the sport on a new foundation for clean competition. Yet they have done nothing since. 

“We are not doing our job if we don’t speak about the problem this causes. Decisive and transparent action was promised, but nothing has happened. We have been saying this since October 10th 2012. We are approaching a year pretty quick and both clean athletes and those that love this sport are sick and tired of the inaction.”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15146/Tygart-blasts-UCI-over-refusal-to-let-USADA-do-tests-at-the-USA-Pro-Cycling-Challenge-and-other-top-events.aspx#ixzz2ayqTeMGI
Pretty clear to me that there is a " SMELL " in the air around Aigle !
My comment to that article :
  "  @mat binns WADA is NOT ALLOWING testing for HGH , EPO ? I doubt that !See my take in tourdafarce.blogspot.com 
Wouldn't it be a laugh if Jim burn aka phat the rat , became HEAD of IOC ? He could then grant himself clemency for his 1970s antics , perhaps award himself an honourary GOLD Medal for Cycle Racing ?"

With phat the rat losing a number of prestigious positions during 2012 , it is hoped that Jacques Rogge & co , would not consider leaving the road open to a PROVEN Liar & Manipulator ?





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Friday, January 25, 2013

" UCI IC " Derailment ?

If today's " Procedural Session of  UCI IC ", was an episode out of " Faulty Towers ", that TV Comedy , with phat taking the role , for which John Cleese is known to play , then today's session could not have been any more Comic ?  Originally scheduled for Tuesday , the " Procedural Hearing , was moved back to Today , Friday , due to the expectation that Heavy Snowfall in the London Region , last Tuesday would create Transport Chaos .

Only when i spotted the following Tweet , did i discover , why i was not seeing an earlier report of that hearing :
the Inner Ring ‏@inrng
Sounds like the UCI's Independent Commission has just been blown out of the water
https://twitter.com/richard_conway/s...55366577774592 …

On investigation of the tweet link i found a bunch of tweets over a period of a few hours . Read them , below , at the bottom of this blog post , starting from the last , to make sense of the timeline and goings on of the Hearing .

From seeing this tweet , i went to the CNF Clinic to see what was occuring there ! Nothing ! So i started the following thread :
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1121658#post1121658

Some of the comments were of interest , others comic :


  "  I'm not sure why, but this scene from " A Few Good Men ", keeps springing to mind.

Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled to.
Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth!
Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth!  "

  "  "We're not trying to kill this inquiry. We set you up," Mill responded later in a heated exchange that led to him being told by Otton: "Please do not raise your voice."

Perhaps the bolded bit is all the UCI meant to say "


"  Nick Howson ‏@NickHowson

UCIIC hearing will be adjourned until Thursday 31 January to allow Wada, USADA and UCI to agree amnesty process.


Jacquelin Magnay ‏@jacquelinmagnay

Uci ind comm suspended til 31st January. And will decide to "vacate" the hearing at that time.  "

There has now been a " News Release / Bulletin " from " UCI IC " :


Would like to have been a fly on the wall , today , but the only winners , appear to have been the Counsell , for the various parties , since they are reputed to be receiving GBP1500 , for each day . My computer does not have the " Pound key "!

Those of us , keen to see the " UCI IC " , succeed in their endeavours , hope that they " Stand Firm " , cause the UCI , to give them ALL Documentation and cause UCI & WADA , to create the necessary "Regulations " required to set up the " Truth and Reconciliation Process " to enable the Panel to do the JOB , with which  they were Tasked !

As my readers will recall , i have created a number of " petitions " , asking for an " Amnesty " , since i feel sure that Current Racers , are unlikely to risk their careers , to provide the type of Evidence needed , to enable Cycling to move away from it's sullied past !

When you consider that these petitions , aimed at assisting the Racers , have been largely ignored by the public , it is reasonable to believe that the " Racers and Support Staff " , will not step out of the shadows , without reasonable assurances of " Anonimity "!



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there was another Petition , created by members of CNF / clinic , that achieved several hundred supporters , but it has dropped out of sight .


An Eye witness to , Today's hearing , offered this comment :

  "  I went to the hearing.
 Some comments:

The UCI were fully lawyered up. I counted six alongside Pat on the UCI benches.

Anyone who doubts the independence of the commissioners is flat wrong. They were openly sceptical of the UCI and turned down UCIs request to put the process on hold, for now at least.

The UCIIC will probably eventually put the process on hold, but not until there is evidence that 
a) some form of T&R / amnesty procedure has been agreed with WADA and 
2) the process will continue to look at UCI behaviour in a reasonably short time period.
 They are pushing to evidence of these at next weeks hearing.

The commissioners did not understand why they had not received documents and were concerned that even you accept the UCIs reason about T&R replacign the currrent process, that excuse only really became valid a week ago when the amnesty discussion started.

UCIIC keen to have all three of USADA, WADA and CCN involved in the review, as they have both evidence and expertise.

At one point, Ian Mill regarding the T&R process said to the the commissioners something like "you have chosen to take the side of WADA and USADA".

UCI have only agreed to support T&R because UCIIC pushed them to do so. To be fair, they do have reasonable arguments abotu the length of time such a process will take, but they then seem to want to put everything else on hold while this was completed.

At least one current or former member of staff at UCI has volunteered to give evidence to UCIIC, but only on condition that UCI do not attempt to discipline him or her for e.g. breach of confidentiality. UCI gave verbal agreement to this.

UCI raised the cost of the process many times, and said that they would "partly fund" a T&R / amnestry process. This looks to me like the next defensive position for the UCI. They may refuse to go ahead with T&R until there is sufficient funding from other stakeholders."



START your reading of " Richard Conway Tweets ", from the bottom !


UCI lawyer to Armstrong panel:"We're not the bad guys here.We have a finite amount of money available to us..we're not like a football body"
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12m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI want panel suspended. Panel requesting docs. UCI say expense is reason for not releasing, esp if panel won't consider matters in the end
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22m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCIIC says needs to be persuaded UCI not using truth and reconciliation disagreement to "kick into long-grass" allegations in USADA report.

Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI counsel - "why have two processes when you could have one?" Independent panel increasingly aghast at UCI position.
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41m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI counsel responds by saying that "we're funding this process" as one reason why it won't release requested docs to independent panel.
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43m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
Things heating up at UCIIC meeting. Panel demanding to UCI counsel to see documents. Say no documents provided by them to panel.
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51m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
Truth and reconciliation process wouldn't begin until middle of year. UCI counsel says twelve months before all involved give evidence.
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59m Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI plan update in March on progress towards wider truth and reconciliation process.

Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI say no amnesty can go ahead without changes to WADA code. No April hearing, no report in June. Commission they established neutralised.
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1h Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI accept need for truth and reconciliation process but it must go wider, involve WADA. Say proposed UCIIC hearing in April can't go ahead.
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1h Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI about to explain its position on amnesty and truth and reconciliation process.
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1h Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
UCI counsel:3 week window for doping amnesty proposed. UCI declined. Strength of amnesty highlighted by Armstrong's statement he'd take part
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1h Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway
At UCI commission meeting. Lead counsel says it has met with "omerta" and without amnesty for witnesses evidence over doping will be limited




Found this gem today :








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Monday, July 9, 2012

C**T* , said Brad Wiggins !


Second evening in the Maillot Jeune and Brad was quiet and amiable at the daily press conference , until , a journo from AP Int , decided to seek sensationalism ! The assembled journos  certainly got their quote of the day ! Can you imagine the feelings of those that did not attend ?

My tweet to the first item I read on this event , which did not go through , so had to send by email instead :

  “  cnbcllca2@mailmw.custhelp.com cnbcllca2@mailmw.custhelp.com “

  “ Email comment to the Brad Wiggins story since my computer link for the reply did not work ! “

  “  Your report of the News Conference at the Tour de France today , sounds like a “ Lance Armstrong “ repeat from past years !

Tweeted by C Vdv :

VandeVelde,Christian‏@ChristianVDV
Here is a link to one of them. http://bit.ly/L25Erx but I believe he didn't say "cut". It had a "N" and a "S" in it.

Johan bruyneel said on Twitter :

Johan Bruyneel‏@JohanBruyneel
Loved the response of @bradwiggins to his critics at the press conf. Get used to it, mate. It's windy at the top!


Personally I tend to agree with C VDV in that during the past few days the TDF has been sidelined whilst the Media are feeding on Conjecture , Rumour , Innuendo and leaping to conclusions !

Regrettable that Ryder has gone home , Injured BUT there is more at the TDF to occupy your personnel other than USADA’s efforts to cheat the public of proper use of Tax payers money !

Am I a fan of Lance ? Read my blogs , starting with http://t.co/Cf8B1pG8 and then check Lancing Armstrong in another Blog !  “


CNF and similar forums have been having a field day with “ SKY Team “ and the members of this team in recent times . Recovering from illness is NOT GOOD ENOUGH reason for turning in better results than previously , according to so many  “ Arm Chair critics “!

MY Tweet on this subject :

skippy mc carthy‏@skippydetour
@JohanBruyneel @bradwiggins with this event Brad & Sean will become the next targets of the " Downtrodden , lazy & unforgiving 3rd estate !



Lifted from “ http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-delivers-caustic-assessment-of-his-critics

  “ After a pause, Wiggins replied: "They are just f***ing w*****s. I cannot be doing with people like that. It justifies their own bone-idleness because they can’t ever imagine applying themselves to anything in their lives. It’s easy for them to sit under a pseudonym on Twitter rather than get off their arses in their own life and apply themselves and work hard at something and achieve something, and that’s ultimately it. C***s!"

WELL DONE BRAD ! Of course now you can expect to be treated in the same fashion as Lance regardless of the results from this year’s “ Le Tour “! Journos think they walk on water , BUT they generally only get paid when they produce sensationalism and you will have filled their coffers , as they wiped the slime off their faces !


Another item came to my attention yesterday written by an ABC reporter , glenn Mitchell , from Oz , funnily , this appears to be a blatant piece of plagiarism  of an earlier piece by Ed Pickering :

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4118228.html

My comment there :

Written to Jacques Rogge to call a “ Sports Moratorium “ so as to “ Clean House “! Unless he gets this job done , we WILL be watching the “ Chemical Olympics “ in years to come !

Drug companies use Athletes , to their benefit , to improve and tweak their products .  Research results could help the World population as a whole BUT the Sports Arena is not the place for Sporting Fraud !

Sporting Fraud has been rampant since before the fall of the IRON Curtain ! IT continues to grow to such an extent , that even Amateurs looking for “ bragging rights “ with their mates , think that the use of PED s are acceptable  behaviour !

As regards the moratorium , checkout   http://t.co/Cf8B1pG8  ,  see if you agree , that the time has arrived , that Sporting Fraud has to STOP !

Will IOC and/or WADA go against their vested interests ? Too many incumbents at the top of these organisations have had the finger pointed at them in recent years for them to be comfortable ! USADA appear to be ignoring those in the UCI , some of whom serve within the IOC , says a lot to many , does it not ?

Certainly I would not like to be the Athlete OR Referee taking the “ Olympic Oath “ in this Internet connected World , where you would have to live in isolation , to avoid hearing the latest news of USADA ‘s efforts or any goings on in their chosen sport !

Today “ Podium Café “ waded into the situation with this article :


http://www.podiumcafe.com/2012/7/8/3145520/the-wiggins-fiasco-what-to-make-of-it

They made plenty of valid points and the one that stayed with me was the fact that Twice Brad has put the pressure on his team by denying Cadel’s team the Maillot Jeune to defend ! Of course letting Cadel have the Millot Jeune could be the beginning of the end and I feel certain that Cadel will do all he can to distance himself from Vincenza Nibali !

Won’t be posting a comment to Podium Café since to do so , you get to visit SB Nation front page which is so full of US Sport , and totally irrelevant to my purposes !


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Sunday, February 5, 2012

ARMSTRONG CASE CLOSED !

No it’s not ! Seems that USADA has decided they want some publicity and guess how they will get this ?

Do the members of US Cycling look forward to having to fund a “ Witch hunt ” ?

DOUBTFUL !

With the resources that were thrown at the Case that has just been closed , it seems to me that there would have been “ indictments ” sought IF there was ANY evidence that could be followed up in ANY JUDICIAL AREA ! Hearsay and the public utterances of aggrieved and convicted former cyclists are not the sort of thing that will bring about the results that so many of the CNF /mushroom farm were praying ! Looks like there will be a turf war breaking out between the various factions , those for Lance and those against , if the “ Moderators ” don’t act firmly to nip it in the bud !

Not really sure if all those commenting on that particular forum really believed that they had a just cause in seeking adverse findings for Lance Armstrong but we will see how they deal with the blow to their self esteem .

The following article is taken direct from CyclingNews to give some understanding of what has taken place during the course of the investigation that has just concluded :

Cyclingnews' complete coverage of Armstrong investigation


Timeline of US federal investigation from Landis to closure:

It all started with an email from Floyd Landis, accusing Lance Armstrong of doping, and it continued for nearly two years before a US federal investigation into the charges was closed.
Cyclingnews followed the story of the investigation into the charges against Lance Armstrong and the US Postal Service team with these stories:
May 20, 2010 - Landis drug Revelations?

May 20, 2010 - Landis confesses to doping, implicates Armstrong and Bruyneel

May 20, 2010 - WADA and UCI issue statements on Landis confession

May 20, 2010 - Johan Bruyneel: Floyd Landis needs ‘help’

May 20, 2010 - Armstrong rejects Landis allegations

May 20, 2010 - UCI rejects Landis' accusation of concealed doping test

May 21, 2010 - Video: Armstrong rejects Landis allegations

May 21, 2010 - Team RadioShack reveal further emails from Landis

May 22, 2010 - Two people named by Landis may co-operate with authorities

May 22, 2010 - LeMond supports Landis in fight for clean cycling

May 23, 2010 - Landis makes an appearance at the Amgen Tour of California

May 25, 2010 - McQuaid acknowledges accepting Armstrong donation a mistake

May 26, 2010 - Scope of US doping inquiry may be widened

May 26, 2010 - UCI requests investigations into Landis claims

May 27, 2010 - Biological passport expert taking Landis seriously

June 9, 2010 - McQuaid defends UCI against Landis and Bordry

July 6, 2010 - Investigation into Landis claims widens to include Interpol

July 14, 2010 - Verbruggen labels Landis a nuisance

August 2, 2010 - Ball could hold link to Armstrong probe

August 4, 2010 - Holczer accuses Leipheimer of blood manipulation

August 8, 2010 - Armstrong lawyer condemns "un-American" investigation

August 17, 2010 - McQuaid suggests US Postal investigation sparked by personal vendetta

August 26, 2010 - Former USPS doctor denies doping at team

September 15, 2010 - Lance Armstrong on defensive in federal investigation

October 14, 2010 - Howman suspects the Armstrong investigation could be as significant as the BALCO case

November 3, 2010 - Popovych to testify in Armstrong probe

November 4, 2010 - Popovych denies witnessing doping

November 17, 2010 - Armstrong investigation extends to French police

January 5, 2011 - Armstrong shrugs off FDA investigation

January 19, 2011 - Frustration for Armstrong as questions arise

January 19, 2011 - A summary of the Sports Illustrated Lance Armstrong investigation

January 23, 2011 - Armstrong era 'corrupt' says ex-mechanic

January 24, 2011 - Bruyneel dismisses Sports Illustrated accusations

January 31, 2011 - Landis: It was either cheat or get cheated

January 31, 2011 - Landis: It was either cheat or get cheated

April 15, 2011 - Armstrong, Ferrari relationship probed in Italian doping investigation

April 26, 2011 - Dr Ferrari offers to meet magistrate surrounding his links to Armstrong

May 11, 2011 - Armstrong investigation progressing, but case is 'solid'

May 20, 2011 - Hamilton says he saw Armstrong use EPO

May 20, 2011 - Tyler Hamilton's letter of confession

May 21, 2011 - Report: Hincapie tells FDA Armstrong took PEDs

May 22, 2011 - Betsy Andreu talks ahead of 60 Minutes show on Lance Armstrong

May 24, 2011 - Ekimov denies Hamilton's claims of Armstrong doping

May 24, 2011 - Verbruggen says Armstrong “never, never, never” doped

November 11, 2011 - Armstrong lawyers ready for Federal battle

February 3, 2012 - Lance Armstrong inquiry concludes with no charges filed



No doubt those that served on the Grand Jury will have voiced their opinions to their families and friends and I would hope for their sake that there will not be any “ Deep Throat ” articles since there will be those looking to benefit from any of their indiscretions !


My comment to Charles Pelkey’s explainer article : http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=7669

“ Doping is " Sporting Fraud " and requires even harsher punishment than already exists and NOBODY is above the law !
Having said that i am aware that Cancer Sufferers use medication after their treatment and one such product is EPO . That Lance had to use " Drugs " whilst Racing and these " items " were approved by UCI and WADA , does not make him a " Doper " ! So many people have come out of the " Woodwork " to try to bring him down to their level and to gain recognition for themselves .

Charles will tell you of the medication that he has to continue to use now that his treatment programme has finished , and for how much longer , and he is not a " High Performance Athlete "!
Myself , i have to use " Sinitron ", or a substitute for the rest of my life due to Embolisms as mentioned in my blogs but then am not in competition .

WADA provides an annual list of " Proscribed Items " and do a thorough job of " Policing " their regs but i doubt it is in anyone's interests for them to kick around in the same area that the Grand Jury has just finished with seems pointless ! Of course there are those in the USADA who see a chance to garner benefit in some manner AND if after they expend huge sums of money and their " witch hunt " leads them to conclude they can make a case against Lance and others do they really think that the Public will thank them ?

Doubt that any will care and as for Lance , a " Suspension " will mean what ?

Will USADA spend millions to go nowhere and antagonise their public ? ”

Back in December 2011 Charles had written another item on this “ Ongoing Saga ” and here is that link :

http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=6973

My comment then was a shot in the dark and some will Say that there was “ Political Intervention ” in this case ! But then there will be many other conspiracy theories espoused in the coming months !
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